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JASON ISBELL: following The Drive By Truckers<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

as Norman Warwick catches up<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Most of the best interviews with musicians that I read appear in the excellent Paste On Line magazine. Their fantastic group of journalists always seem to get to the heart of the matter and yet remain obviously trusted by their interviewees. Paste writers contextualise their interviews so well that it doesn\u00b4t really matter whether or not the reader has ever heard the music of the interviewee. Jason Isbell (left)<\/em><\/strong>, artist of the year 2023 had pretty much passed me. I had seen his name all over the press in 2023 but had never had the time to listen to his music. The compelling interview in Paste forced me to do so\u2026 and I was stunned to hear what I had been missing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Being interviewed by Matt Mitchell, the Alabama native talked about his approach to honest songwriting, a decade of Southeastern<\/em> and sobriety, Killers of the Flower Moon<\/em> and his latest album with the 400 Unit, Weathervanes<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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When Jason Isbell<\/a>\u2019s breakthrough album Southeastern<\/em> (right)<\/em><\/strong> came out in 2013, Mitchell  was a 15-year-old kid without any wherewithal to properly interpret those songs for what they were\u2014at least not in the way that he is now. He wasn\u2019t introduced to this music until 2017, when Isbell and his long-time band\u2014the 400 Unit\u2014took to Bob Boilen\u2019s cubicle at the NPR Music office for a Tiny Desk Concert<\/a>. They played \u201cChaos and Clothes\u201d first and, says Mitchell, \u00b4immediately, my life was different\u00b4.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cYou\u2019re in a fight to the death, my friend, black metal T-shirts your shield,\u201d Isbell sang, harmonizing with his wife Amanda Shires, who was also playing the fiddle. \u201cYou\u2019ve got the past on your breath, my friend. Now name all the monsters you\u2019ve killed.\u201d Isbell wrote that song in a muddy German field with no cell service or internet, the lyrics settling the score about a friend who he, at the time, didn\u2019t think was making healthy decisions\u2014a story hinged on the all-too-familiar memory of someone asking for your advice but refusing to take it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Mitchell says that is the kind of universality that crops up on all of Jason Isbell\u2019s records; a generous eye fixed upon a world where marriage, love, trauma, addiction and disparity are all occurring concurrently. His work is a portrait of life as we know it, and all of that came to a head in 2020, when he and the 400 Unit released Reunions<\/em><\/a> and a song like \u201cDreamsicle\u201d fell into my lap. \u201cBroken glass and broken vows, I\u2019ll be 18 four years from now, with different friends in a different town,\u201d Isbell sang over a glowing homesick melody. \u201cI\u2019ll finally be free.\u201d I can\u2019t quite explain it, that feeling when, for the first time, you finally hear the song you\u2019ve always needed. But that\u2019s what happened when Reunions<\/em> came out three years ago, and it\u2019s happened again in 2023 with the release of Weathervanes<\/em> and a song like \u201cMiddle of the Morning\u201d\u2014a relic of the pandemic that\u2019s timelessness is folklorish, as Isbell muses about feeling disconnected from a spouse in close-proximity. It\u2019s funny how, across so many important checkpoints of my life, Isbell\u2019s music has been there to provide a tangible commentary for all of it. I know quite a few other folks feel similarly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But Isbell has gone on record<\/a>, though, about how making Reunions<\/em> was a particularly difficult experience for him\u2014largely because of how tense he felt throughout the process. He even went as far as saying he regretted not enjoying the making of that project, especially because it\u2019s such a great record. I agree with Isbell on the latter part of that statement, as \u201cDreamsicle\u201d has remained a top 10 staple in my end-of-year Apple Replay four times in a row. When recording Reunions<\/em>, Isbell finally admitted that the work had become too stressful, a stark contrast to his shrugged-shoulders attitude prior to hitting the studio. \u201cBeforehand, I\u2019d told myself, \u2018Eh, this is not an actual problem. You\u2019re making a record, it\u2019s fun.\u2019 I just didn\u2019t allow myself to do that. And, of course, like with any other emotion, it comes out your ears in steam,\u201d he tells me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Determined to lighten the emotional load before recording Weathervanes<\/em><\/a> (right)<\/strong><\/em> three years later, Isbell got real and admitted that something wasn\u2019t clicking\u2014and he was prepared to exile his pride and his self-administered expectations. And the result was fruitful, as Isbell and the 400 Unit wound up making the best record of their career thus far. \u201cI\u2019d gone through this process\u2014with my therapist and with my family and with myself\u2014saying, \u2018Okay, I\u2019m feeling pressure. It is a challenge for me to live up to the standards that I\u2019ve set for myself,\u2019\u201d Isbell adds. \u201cAnd, once I did that, it started to get a whole lot easier to enjoy the process and let go of the concerns of the ego. I try to get better at not giving a shit what other people think, as I go through my life. This is something that I think will always<\/em> be a work-in-progress. It probably is for most of us. I want to be considerate of other people but, at the same time, I don\u2019t want to take all that baggage. When I\u2019m writing a song, I want to make it a record, and I had made some strides on that when it came time to make Weathervanes<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThe night was young once, we were the wild ones, \u2018fore we had to pay attention to the violence,\u201d Isbell opines at the genesis of Weathervanes<\/em>. \u201cAnything could happen, but nothing ever really did.\u201d \u201cDeath Wish\u201d is a unique opening track for him and the 400 Unit. At once, it\u2019s malleable\u2014capable of being stripped down into an acoustic sprawl while also existing how it does on the record, as a gothic overture. There\u2019s a Randy Newman nod; an overarching sonic homage to The Cure and other post-punk landmarks. Isbell\u2019s singing about being in love with someone battling mental illness and suicidal thoughts. There\u2019s an immediate sense of delicacy there, as a line like \u201cI don\u2019t wanna fight with you, baby, but I won\u2019t leave you alone\u201d stirs in emotive starkness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cDeath Wish\u201d was the Weathervanes<\/em> lead single, and not everyone was all-in on this next chapter of the 400 Unit\u2014and Isbell noticed that. \u201cI saw a couple people online, after the song came out, who said \u2018No, I have never done that, so I don\u2019t like the song,\u2019 and that was a hilarious criticism to me, where it\u2019s like \u2018No, this has never happened to me, so this music\u2019s not for me,\u2019\u201d he says, chuckling. \u201cIt\u2019s like, man, you must like seven songs<\/em>.\u201d While \u201cDeath Wish\u201d breaks new, fertile ground for Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, what he\u2019s searching for in an opening track is much more practical\u2014as he wants, first and foremost, something with a lot of production on it to catalyze any given project. Why that notion is so crucial to him is because, on a vinyl record, the grooves are wider towards the outer layers of the disc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cAs you go in toward the middle of the record, you don\u2019t have as much actual literal, physical space,\u201d he adds. \u201cSo it doesn\u2019t sound as good. A lot of my tracklisting has to do with the fact that the songs that have the most going on need to get the most room in the grooves. That\u2019s something that, I think, became ingrained in listeners in the \u201860s and \u201870s\u2014especially in the \u201870s\u2014and big produced concept albums. I think it\u2019s comforting to us to hear records that way.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s one of the most practical responses I\u2019ve ever heard about the sequencing on an album, and I tell Isbell just as much. Such a move is deliberate and methodical from him. \u201cIf I get any chance to let practical considerations influence the art itself, I will take those chances,\u201d he says. \u201cBecause I feel like that\u2019s something that speaks to the way we\u2019ve heard music, traditionally, and the way we consume art. There\u2019s a reason that movies start with a particular opening scene before you get your opening credit, or the reason that the first line of a novel should be its strongest\u2014all these things are practical concerns that we\u2019ve allowed to get into the DNA of how we consume creative projects. I love tying those things together. Sometimes, you just do what makes everything work and then, all of a sudden, you\u2019ve made art.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Weathervanes<\/em> is Isbell\u2019s most ambitious record to date, at least musically, and it ventures away from the cut-and-dry folk troubadour incantations of Reunions<\/em>. The work this time around cuts its teeth on that live and loose golden era of country rock, when the Marshall Tucker Band and Brothers and Sisters<\/em>-era Allman Brothers were putting out some of the prettiest and energetic albums ever. But Isbell didn\u2019t go into the writing phase with any initial desire to consciously open his songs up in such an elaborate and freewheeling way, nor was there much intent on capturing a perspective that he didn\u2019t have on Reunions<\/em> three years ago.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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He started writing Weathervanes<\/em> in Oklahoma, when he was filming Martin Scorsese\u2019s Killers of the Flower Moon<\/em>.(right)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI had a whole bunch of downtime\u2014as you do, it turns out, when you\u2019re making a movie\u2014and I spent that time writing songs. My day-to-day life was very Bartlesville, Oklahoma, very normal people going about their day in the middle of an extremely rural part of the country\u2014and that\u2019s how I felt, those raw emotions. That country-rock sound made itself present in the songs without me really having to steer it in that direction. I was spending all of my work days dressed up in clothes that existed 100 years ago. There\u2019s something about the whole vibe of [Killers of the Flower Moon<\/em>] and that time period and the work that I was doing\u2014in the place where I was living\u2014that added to that. And then, once I started to recognize, \u2018Oh, this is the direction that I want to go in,\u2019 then I leaned into it. I do that a whole lot. I started writing without much of an intention other than just to make characters exist and then follow them around. And then, somewhere in the process, I notice what direction I\u2019m walking in and pick up the pace a little bit.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The impact that the Killers of the Flower Moon<\/em> set had on Isbell can be felt rather immediately on a song like \u201cKing of Oklahoma,\u201d which name-checks a woman named Mollie, which just so happens to be the name of Lily Gladstone\u2019s protagonist in the film. The \u201cking\u201d in question is a callback to Robert De Niro\u2019s character William Hale, who refers to himself as such. But, when he was writing the lyrics, Isbell never intentionally set out to reference the movie he was making. \u201cI was going to that set and interacting with those characters every day, and it just found its way in,\u201d he says. While Isbell and his band have been gigging coast-to-coast and everywhere in the middle for nearly two full decades, where he writes his songs still tend to reflect and dictate what each one becomes. Most of Weathervanes<\/em> was sketched in Oklahoma and, upon listening to it all the way through, you can hear the truth of that in every note and every melody\u2014and that\u2019s a mark of being in a distinctive place full of universal people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cWe\u2019re all really very similar, in all the towns and cities and everything,\u201d Isbell adds. \u201cBut the setting is a really big deal for me, because it just makes me think from a different angle. If I wrote an entire record in New York, it would be about different things. I imagine it would probably be very personal about the size of human connections\u2014because, for there to be that many people living on top of one another, then you have the question of \u2018Well, does any of this matter? And, if so, how much? What is the significance of love between two people in a town where there\u2019s 11 million of us stacked up on one another? I mean, why bother? What is the reason why we go through heartbreak and tragedy and all of this when we could just go outside and there\u2019s hundreds of people walking down the sidewalk at any given moment.\u2019 The place certainly works its way into the music, but the more I travel the more I figure out that people are very similar from place to place.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Drive by <\/strong>Truckers Fans and listeners have been drawing comparisons between\u00a0Weathervanes<\/em>\u00a0and Isbell\u2019s days playing guitar in the Drive By Truckers. There are similarities running throughout the tracklist\u2014most clearly on penultimate song \u201cThis Ain\u2019t It\u201d\u2014and they shine through in ways that are more intense than ever before, at least not since Isbell\u2019s debut solo album,\u00a0Sirens of the Ditch<\/em>. For a long time, that kind of volume and heaviness was largely reserved for Isbell and the 400 Unit\u2019s live shows. But, being 15+ years removed from his tenure in the Truckers, he\u2019s now reached a place where he\u2019s comfortable with letting his songs go there\u2014because he\u2019s eliminated having anything left to prove. And, across all five studio albums of original material in the last 10 years, Isbell\u2019s work has never sounded like what he did with the Truckers\u2014a deliberate choice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI think that part was intentional, I wanted to do something different\u2014especially with Southeastern<\/a><\/em>,\u201d he says. \u201cThat\u2019s one reason why it wound up so quiet and so small, production-wise, because I just wanted it to be just me, just mine. With Weathervanes<\/em>, I thought, \u2018You know, enough time has passed, I think everybody knows that we\u2019re all on good terms and we\u2019re all doing very separate things and nobody\u2019s ripping anybody off. I think I can just let these songs be what they want to be.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That was also Isbell\u2019s approach to producing Weathervanes<\/em>. For the first time since Here We Rest<\/em> in 2011, he opted to not bring back longtime engineer Dave Cobb. This time around, Isbell was able to leave his ego outside the door and go into the studio and just serve the songs he\u2019d written. In many ways, it was like a rebirth for Isbell, but it was also an emotional and creative reunion. \u201cIt\u2019s good, because there are certain constraints that you put on yourself as you go through years and years of working in this particular field,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd some of them fall away. It was nice when that specter of the time that I spent with [Drive-By Truckers] fell away and became just a part of who I am as a songwriter again.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Weathervanes<\/em> is Isbell\u2019s most personal 400 Unit record to date, if only because he\u2019s placing more focus on the whole, ultimate point of living\u2014which is to grow and learn more about himself and how to be happy, joyful and stable. He\u2019s always preferred to keep his characters \u201cin-house,\u201d but he\u2019s candid about every album holding more of him than the album that preceded it. When it comes to the curiosity that keeps pulling him back into writing, it\u2019s not so much about trying to better understand a particular type of character or a particular type of motif or circumstance. No, the curiosity comes via the immense potential of just how many stories are left to be told.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI think a really great songwriter could sit in one room, isolated for 10 years, and still be able to write five albums-worth of good material\u2014maybe if they just had one<\/em> window that they could look out,\u201d Isbell says. \u201cI\u2019m not saying that they should<\/em> do that, either. But, I think that it would be possible, because there is so much to notice. A lot of my favorite songs in the indie rock world will be written about very small, very specific subjects; tiny, tiny, tiny things. When you go into poems, you get even smaller and you keep reducing the sphere of your perspective until, finally, you\u2019re just writing about the tiniest possible speck of dust. And that\u2019s the thing that keeps me motivated, the fact that there are just billions and billions and billions of different stories to tell.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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In a recent GQ<\/em> interview<\/a>, Scorsese (left<\/strong><\/em>) spoke about how everyone we\u2019ve known and loved has suffered and struggled so much, and then life is over. He said, \u201cYou get to the point of saying, \u2018Well, what does it all mean?\u2019 It doesn\u2019t matter what it means. You have to live it.\u201d This idea of not getting tangled up in trying to gather all of life\u2019s answers hits home whenever I tap into a Jason Isbell record. When I\u2019m writing poetry, I\u2019m always wrestling with whether or not it\u2019s my job to shepherd people to an answer. My advisor in college once told me that it\u2019s not the writer\u2019s job to always nurture a reader to the finish line, that it\u2019s painfully human\u2014but necessary\u2014to give them the tools to get there on their own. For Isbell, a big part of the work he does, both in music and in maintaining a sense of self beyond it, is saying that we are wasting time looking for the answers\u2014time we could be using to place attention on what\u2019s going on around us and who in our lives we love and care for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cIf I see an answer, that\u2019s a red flag,\u201d he asserts. \u201cIf I hear a song that has answers in it, then I think, \u2018Man, this is amateur hour\u2019\u2014because that\u2019s going to change in five minutes and five days and five months and five years. If you\u2019re settling on something right now, then you\u2019re undermining the version of yourself that\u2019s gonna come later. And all I want to do is try to keep all versions of myself as honest and aboveboard as possible. Anytime something even reminds me of that\u2014an answer to one of life\u2019s big questions\u2014whether it\u2019s in song or in conversation, I try to say, \u2018Well, in my experience, this is how I have tried and failed in the past.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Isbell has always been transparent about his failures\u2014particularly his sobriety and what life before that was like for him and the people in his orbit. As a sober person, I\u2019m constantly trying to better understand how my own art shifts between the days when I was a student in high school or in college doing drugs versus now, when I\u2019m a drug-free and employed adult. On Weathervanes<\/em>, we find Isbell remaining immune to pandering, as he writes about familial, generational trauma (\u201cCast Iron Skillet\u201d), school shootings (\u201cSave the World\u201d), abortion (\u201cWhite Beretta\u201d) and interloping in hometowns (\u201cVolunteer\u201d) with grace and affection. Though his clarity continues to grow with every passing year that he\u2019s alcohol-free, writing about violence, disparity\u2014and loss and the people in the world around you\u2014in an empathetic and honest way is still hard even as he\u2019s taken that step within himself, too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cAny kind of recovery, whether it\u2019s from addiction or from abuse or from any sort of trauma, you grow and you get wiser,\u201d Isbell says. \u201cAnd the wiser you get, the harder it is to really pick a voice and decide on the correct way to tell a story that\u2019s this heavy. It just gets harder to write the songs as I go on, and it should. I would be so<\/em> disappointed if it was easy to write a song now compared to when I was 22 or 23 years old. I think that\u2019s the beauty of creating art throughout the course of your life\u2014that, the better you get at it, the harder it gets. There\u2019s no final boss, and that\u2019s because I\u2019m always trying to refine not only the nuts and bolts of the work, but the perspective of the work also.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On Reunions<\/em> and Weathervanes<\/em>, something that has helped Isbell on a personal level\u2014that has, certainly, found its way into the music\u2014is that he\u2019s been able to forgive the person that he was before he got sober. It took a long time, because he was afraid that doing so would lead him back to behaving in those ways again. \u201cFor the first decade, or close to it, I had to look at that guy as \u2018This guy\u2019s out of my life, I don\u2019t speak to this guy.\u2019 And then, somewhere around Reunions<\/em>, I decided, \u2018Okay, I\u2019m going to call this guy and see how he\u2019s doing. It\u2019s been long enough, I think<\/em> I can talk to him and keep my boundaries intact enough to have a relationship with this person again.\u2019 And when that happened, it allowed me to access some of the strength in those emotions from that time\u2014because we would never become addicted to drugs and alcohol if it didn\u2019t do something positive for us, at least in the temporary. I think, once you get past that stage, where the ground beneath you is a little bit shaky, I think it\u2019s important to go back and forgive yourself and, maybe, get in touch with that person again in the same way that you would an inner-child.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Something about Jason Isbell\u2019s songwriting that I hold close is how, so often, he remains a beacon through the best and worst of times\u2014if only for his willingness to write songs that are sometimes romantic and sublime yet painfully true and honest. \u201cYes, I\u2019ve tried to be grateful for my devils and call them by their names,\u201d he sings on \u201cMiddle of the Morning.\u201d \u201cBut I\u2019m tired.\u201d I\u2019ve been thinking about what it means to make art in a world where we are also responsible for protecting the people we love, be it our kids or our partners or our parents\u2014how the stories we write are impacted by the kind of world we want our loved ones to interact with and find safety in. You want to write about a forgiving, empathetic planet, but too often that\u2019s not the reality of it\u2014and unlearning how to see anything but brutality and disparity is a really long shot to play. When it comes to Isbell\u2019s songs, like \u201cKing of Oklahoma,\u201d where he concludes with my favorite line of the record\u2014\u201cNothing makes me feel like much of nothing anymore\u201d\u2014I immediately start wondering how he grapples with what story to tell and how to not make the planet look so bleak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The truth is that, for Jason Isbell, when you\u2019re writing about the people you are close to, there\u2019s a lot of work that needs to be done before you actually sit down with a guitar and a pencil and paper. \u201cThe work you have to do before that is to try to surround yourself with love and with honesty,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd, if you\u2019re being honest with all the people in your life at all times\u2014and you\u2019re leading with kindness, with generosity of spirit\u2014then you\u2019re not really going to be capable of writing something about them that crosses over the lines of privacy. I\u2019m not saying that there\u2019s nothing that should be private between two people, whether it\u2019s a parent and a child or spouses, or whatever. But, if you\u2019re leading your life honestly, then your songs are probably going to be honest, as well.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When it comes to the bleakness of his characters and some of their stories, however, Isbell points to the access he has to sing these songs. For Weathervanes<\/em>, he had eight hours a day in a climate-controlled environment, a guitar, a pen and some paper. He had the time to write a song about his world and then workshop and edit it until it was something he could deliver to everybody else. According to Isbell, there is \u201can asterisk beside the suffering,\u201d because he has time to tell you about it. \u201cWhen you\u2019re truly suffering, you\u2019re not passing the story of that along to anybody,\u201d he says. \u201cYou\u2019re just trying to get from moment to moment and survive. Things are pretty dark out there in a lot of different situations right now, but we\u2019re living longer\u2014I mean, people across the board are living longer and healthier lives than we ever have before.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Isbell immediately recognizes the caveats to that truth, though. \u201cThere\u2019s a lot of problems with the healthcare system, there\u2019s problems with race, there\u2019s problems with gender, there\u2019s problems with pushback from the right when we try to make some kind of progress,\u201d he adds. \u201cAll of these things are real, and they\u2019re all happening. But shit has been way, way worse in the past. People are talking about \u2018This is the worst time in American history.\u2019 Oh, contraire. There was a point where there were bleachers set up around battlefields and people who were related to each other and had grown up together were killing each other on these battlefields\u2014if they could survive having diarrhea and being dehydrated long enough to actually get up and fire a rifle or stab one another. Things have been way worse in America, especially for people who aren\u2019t fairly wealthy and white.\u201d Isbell\u2019s route to balancing songs like \u201cMiddle of the Morning\u201d and \u201cStrawberry Woman\u201d with \u201cSave the World\u201d and \u201cVolunteer\u201d comes from a sharp duality: He gets great rewards from talking about his family and singing his love songs and, for him to be able to address the injustices of the world, he first has to survive and be himself. And, to do that, he has to<\/em> be able to write these songs we\u2019ve long adored.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On all of Isbell\u2019s records\u2014but especially Weathervanes<\/em>\u2014he\u2019s striking a balance between sentimentality and hard-nosed realism. Songwriters and nostalgia go hand-in-hand, for better or for worse, but, on Weathervanes<\/em>, Isbell\u2019s telling of these way-back stories feels like an earned type of retrospect\u2014rather than a bygone praise that comes when the well has run dry. For him, it\u2019s a matter of the level of indulgence for the sentimental or the nostalgic shifting depending on what type of song he\u2019s writing. When Isbell is working on a love song, nostalgia comes in handy. But, he\u2019s also acutely aware of how, if you use that kind of wistfulness incorrectly, it can become a weapon. He cites a conversation he had with Celine Strong about her film Past Lives<\/em><\/a>, and how the way that cinema utilizes\u2014or enables\u2014yearning:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cWe were having a conversation about how nostalgia is the weapon in that movie. And that movie really feels like a thriller, because you don\u2019t know what people are going to do next\u2014and the bloody knife in the corner is<\/em> nostalgia,\u201d Isbell says. \u201cThat\u2019s the thing you have to really watch out for. But, if you\u2019re gonna write a song for somebody that you care a whole lot about\u2014and you want to point to the reasons why\u2014then you\u2019re going to need to use a little bit of it. It really all comes down to what story I\u2019m trying to tell. If you\u2019re making a movie for a year, you got one story. Now, you\u2019ve got a long time to tell it, a couple hours\u2014or more, if you\u2019re Marty. I have a short amount of time to tell a story, and then I tell another one and then I tell another one. The goals and the tools can shift from song to song. \u201cKing of Oklahoma,\u201d you need nostalgia. You need that character to feel nostalgic. But \u201cWhite Beretta,\u201d you need the opposite of that. You need reality. You can\u2019t romanticize those emotions, or you undermine the whole point of that song.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Isbell\u2019s most revered solo album, Southeastern<\/em>, was written in the period after he got sober. It came out 10 years ago this past June, two days after Weathervanes<\/em> was released, and 10-year anniversaries are both tricky and interesting to me\u2014largely because the records we\u2019re celebrating came out when I was at my most formative age. And what they meant to me then isn\u2019t always what they mean to me now. If I had encountered Southeastern<\/em> in 2013, I wouldn\u2019t have understood what the hell Isbell was singing about. But now, I think I can meet him at least<\/em> halfway. When looking back at songs like \u201cCover Me Up\u201d or \u201cElephant\u201d\u2014or even a line like \u201cI\u2019ve buried her a thousand times, giving up my place in line, but I don\u2019t give a damn about that now,\u201d the work doesn\u2019t take on new meaning for Isbell, even if he is more than a decade clean and more than a decade removed from the work. He gives Southeastern<\/em> some leeway, though, because it was a crucial record for him, for his audience and it was<\/em> his breakthrough release. So, in that way, it\u2019s romanticized for him\u2014but he wouldn\u2019t change how those songs were written and recorded, because the album was lightning in a bottle captured during a gravitational time of transition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cMost of my favorite stories\u2014whether they\u2019re books or movies or songs\u2014throughout history, have happened at this moment of transition, when there\u2019s a person\u2014who is writing this or creating this\u2014who isn\u2019t completely certain of what\u2019s going to happen next,\u201d Isbell explains. \u201cThat was significant for me, the fact that, all of a sudden, I had more time to work with the raw ability that I had before I got sober. I was able to sit down and capture what was going on in a way that was more skillful\u2014because songwriting is song editing<\/em>, and I spent so much time trying to get those songs completely right that I think, if it were to be anything different now, if I were to go back and rewrite Southeastern<\/em> as a 44-year-old who\u2019s been sober for as long as I have, I don\u2019t think it would be the same. I had to capture that period of transition and I don\u2019t necessarily think of myself as the person who wrote that album anymore, because that guy was very unsure of what was about to happen.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Southeastern<\/em> is the project that turned Jason Isbell into a household name, and it became obvious that things were shifting when, upon coming back to the States after an international flight, he saw himself in The New York Times<\/em> and The Wall Street Journal<\/em> on the same day at the same newsstand. When he started touring the album, it became really obvious. \u201cWe sold out dozens of shows in a row,\u201d Isbell notes. \u201cI remember one show, in St. Louis, there were people waiting in the parking lot at the show who knew<\/em> they weren\u2019t gonna get it. The show was already sold out and the building was full, and there were people in the parking lot just so they could hear through the walls or the windows. I remember thinking, \u2018This is insane.\u2019 And, for a while there, we couldn\u2019t keep up with the demand\u2014because we were trying to increase the size of the venues as we went from town to town. Sometimes, that wasn\u2019t logically doable, so we had some shows that were pretty crazy. It was a beautiful thing to see, that feeling that what you\u2019re doing is working on that level.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Southeastern<\/em> was written at a transitional period in Isbell\u2019s life\u2014one that he admits was a moment etched in that time and that time only<\/em>\u2014and you can certainly say the same about Weathervanes<\/em>, as he attempts to make sense of his place in a world brimming with regret, violence and grief. The album is a changeover, a passage to a new, hopefully kinder chapter. And in that way, Weathervanes<\/em> is\u2014like all great folk, country and Americana records\u2014a historical pursuit done in the name of where we come from, who we used to be and who came before us. There\u2019s pride there, in remembering the places your DNA still retreats to. Isbell\u2019s music so often dislodges mainstream preconceptions about rural art, even if he writes it anywhere. I ask him what the secret is to writing songs that are in service to undoing those prejudices. \u201cYou just tell the truth,\u201d he replies. It\u2019s as simple as that.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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